Asking a Man Out, Part II

Ok, so since a discussion got started - some follow-up questions on the post:

 Generally speaking, men were raised to believe that if they are interested in a woman, they should ask her out.  However, does this apply to the generation of men, say, 30 and under?  Is this the generation of men who were raised with beliefs that women can make the move?  Did the feminist movement make men second guess this?  Do a lot of men today have experience with women initiating?  That, and do men like getting asked out by women, as my friend suggested?  Or do men prefer to be in the driver's seat?  I realize this varies from guy to guy.  I think a lot of men will initially say something like 'oh, it's AWESOME if a woman makes the first move' - however, in their mind, it's a Jessica Alba-esque woman, not an every day woman who they may or may not be interested in in the first place.  Do any of my male readers (I know I have at least five!) have experience with getting asked out by a woman?  Do they have experience rejecting a woman?

As I always say - your thoughts?

Asking a Man Out....

So Chelsea Handler says (on the subject of asking a man out before he asks you):

Never ask out a guy before he asks you.  I don't care what sore of women's movement feminist crap you hear: it's a big mistake.  men are, for the most part, stupid.  If they have been told their whole lives that it is their place to ask out a woman and you upset that rule and confuse them, their heads will explode.
On top of  that, if they haven't asked you out yet, they're probably not interested.  In that case, they would only say yes if you ask them because they (a) feel sorry for you or (b) assume that you will pay.  In either scenario, you lose.

Now, when I was younger, I may have held a different viewpoint (see previous posts about not wanting to be picked by a man, but rather, to do the picking).

However.   I kind of think one non-negotiable is that a guy must really like me, or at least, be interested enough to ask me out.  If he can't ask me out, he either (a) isn't all that into me, or (b) lacks the balls to ask me out.  As Chelsea said - either way, it's a loss.

Your thoughts?  Should women ask out men?  Should we remain old-fashioned on this one?  Do you other girls out there ask men out?  Do you men enjoy getting asked out by women?  Or, is this question in and of itself too old fashioned?  Should it be 'should women wink/poke/nudge/whatever form of online dating communication effort first'?